Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Who, exactly, are the "insurgents" in Iraq?

Are the insurgents the same every day, or do their identities change? How can the soldiers tell who is who? What a mess!

Also, who says the Iraqis want to live in a democracy; they have always lived in a theocracy. (I hope my spelling is correct there!). For America to go over there, invade their country and then try to tell them how they are going to be governed from now on is the very height of arrogance. How would we like it if another country came in here and did the same thing to us?Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Hi Warrior,



The insurgents are neighboring countries who do not want us in Iraq any more than the Iraqis do and are trying to help out as they are not fighting the Iraqis, they are fighting against us.



The Majority of Iraqis feel they were much better off under Saddam. At least then, their country was not in shambles and not in the middle of a civil war started for the reasons you mention in your question. They do not want bush force feeding them with what bush refers to as democracy as it doesn't seem to be working for them at all.



I guess they have a hard time seeing the good side of democracy when it destroys their country, slaughters their citizens, and puts them at civil war with their own countrymen.



Maybe bush needs to send condi over to re-explain everything, as the reason for our being there seems to be wearing thin . . . . . .(again!)



let's see, I think it all started over weapons of mass destruction and last I heard, it's about fighting terrorism, but problem is, Saddam was not a terrorist, nor were the citizens of Iraq, but Saddam paid with his life, and his people are paying by no longer having any lives to live, they have nothing but empty promises from bush, much like the citizens of New Orleans after Katrina.

The whole thing is sickening



Darryl S.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
There a bunch of Foreign fighters who are fighting the American troops because they hate Democracy and freedom so F**k them To Hell..And im not AmericanWho, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
from what i hear..in iraq the insurgents(terrorists) are the ones wearing tennis shoes...the normal people wear sandals...Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Where to start my man..



Firstly, Iraq was neevr a 'Theocacy', its never had a Religious Sha as its leader. Iraq has thousands of years if history, dating back to the times of Babylon, you may want to remember that friend.



Also, the 'Insurgency' is by no means one group, its a mixture of Shia and Sunni groups, with their own agendas and means to reach themWho, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
They are doctors that do surgery.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Insugents are the enemy. Dont understand why The USA approves of splitting up Yugoslavia but not Iraq to Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis or find a dictator like Tito Democracy doesnt seem to work there.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
most normal people would rather live in freedom than under a dictator who thinks his word is God. OTOH, there are those who are too weak to have freedom and keep wishing to live under such a one.



some of the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; are terrorists from other countries. some are Iraqi's who don't like the occupation. some are Iraqi's who are afraid of the other side, whoever they perceive it to be.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
You don't even know what an insurgent is or can't spell but you with your limited knowledge of what is even going on over there yet you are putting our country down for it's arrogance??? Oh but for the ignorance of our youth!!!!!!!!!Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
There are numerous native insurgency groups, Sunni and Shia. There are also foreign insurgents, but these groups are much, much smaller groups than the native insurgencies.



Regular Iraqis probably do not care what their government is labeled as long as it can provide peace and security so they can live normal lives in peace.



Iraq was NOT a theocracy. Under Saddam Hussein Iraq was a secular state.



If the United States were ever invaded by a foreign millitary, unlikely in this nuclear age, the foreign military would face an extremely hostile and well armed native insurgency.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
An insurgent is the media and democrats thinly way of saying 'freedom fighters' It is simply an Orwellian contrivance that takes away from the fact that these gangs of people are killing each other and our forces.



There are probably of hundred different groups with different goals that overlap. So, I would say they change from day to day.



Sadr is a great threat and he should have been swinging from a lamppost in down town bagdhad when we had the chance.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Sometimes the insurgents have been Baathist rebels who remained loyal to Saddam after the fall of Baghdad. Sometimes the insurgents have been foreign fighters led by people like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, or domestic fighters like Muqtada al-Sadr, who have basically told their followers, %26quot;American forces have invaded Iraq; go wipe them out to their last man.%26quot;



Still other times the insurgents have been infiltrators into the very government institutions we're trying to set up (i.e., Iraqi police forces).Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
The insurgents are people that are so angry because some one messed with its country, is that sufficient reason to be mad?Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
It's pretty much divided between these 3 groups:



Sunnis: They were the minority in power courtesy of Saddam for 30 years. They know if a democracy is established in Iraq they will be a minority with the Kurds and Shiites looking for payback.



Shiites: They are the ones who want to establish an Iranian style government.



Jihadists: They are the Al-Qaeda types who just want to get the US out of Iraq.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
I think the idea is that Saddam was of one group and now they are working on a system that has more equal representation for the various splinter groups in the country (just like revolutionary America) and those who are opposed to this idea are the insurgents. I think many of those insurgents are part of the same group as Saddam and don't like the loss of power or the fear that they will be mistreated by other groups as that has been the policy in the past. I think it is likely very hard to tell the difference, unless the insurgents wear an identifier (which they might, even just to have their face covered or something).



While I don't like Bush and I think Iraq is a personal thing for him - something he came to this presidency with as a goal - I think he feels that we've been asked or had a responsibility to go there. I have heard him say (and he seems to believe) that the citizens wanted the change and he helped them. It's the kindest way for me to think of his point of view, but I would like to see him and Cheney removed from the equation, now that Nancy Pelossi would be the next person who would step into the presidency upon Impeachment.



Frankly, I would like to see that. It's a great way to get a woman in the door and take some of the nonsense away from the notion of 1st female president - and they are surely grooming Barack Obama for great things. This could be an important first step toward getting rid of the racism and sexism that has plagued our government for so long. Pelossi and Obama in '08? Could be...



Peace!Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Sunnis and foreign fighters (non-Iraqi ).



They lined up to vote , now didn't they.



Our civilians would kick their A**!Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Insurgents are the supportors of the previous regime or rebels that want a different government. Taliban, Al Quaida, or any host of other fanatical Muslim extremeists. These insurgents want the Muslim religion to rule.



You are right, no one knows who is the bad guy,that is what make this ward so tough. Better to shoot first and ask for ID later.



We are as close as possible to the perfect society and it's a proven way of life...We are only trying to give the Iraqis what they deserve and implement peace....although they sure do like to fight and will fight with anyone, including themselves.



In regards to someone attacking us and trying to implement their type of rule, is highly unlikely. The other 3rd world countries don't have the organization or means, that is why they need to be democrocized. Look at Iraq, they live and dress the same way as they did thousands of years ago. The only modern things they have are Satelite phones ( to call in an ambush ) Toyota Pick ups ( To blow up things with ) %26amp; AK47s ( To shoot people with)

I'm sure they want to preserve their wonderful lifestyle.



The insurgents are a very small % of the population. Once the people have a taste of freedom, they will embrace it, and the insugency will die out.



Arrogant???? We are only attempting to improve the world we all live in....We need to protect and educate the 3rd worldWho, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
Any Iraqi who opposes the american occupation is termed an insurgent or even a terroris.The unfortunate invasion of Iraq by t

he Americans is the tragedy of our time.

Apparently some seriously unbalanced people are now in charge of running the affairs of the American state.And in as much as they remain in control,and in so far as the Americans are unable to challenge their 'mad max' tactics,so long will the world continue to suffer from their madness.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
I've read all the blurbs above and find Stingray's answer the only beacon of hope to this question:

hmmm let's see... Who is an insurgent?

Cant be the Shias and the Sunnis... They are only bearing arms to throw the infidel out of their own lands..

Could it be the gum chewing yank in Army and Marine uniforms raping their women and their country and behaving like Rambos, forcing the Iraqis into accepting the American way of Life, liberty and democracy as the only way to live?

You go figure.... would you fight like hell if your home state was overrun by Hispanic youths advocating their way of life as the only correct way to live?Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
An insurgent is anybody against America. If the roles were reversed then they would be called loyalists. I think your right about us loosing the hearts and minds of people when you say spreading democracy failed but, really, or we in a position to do anything.Who, exactly, are the %26quot;insurgents%26quot; in Iraq?
alright the insurgents in iraq are divided into many sub groups, you have the JAM, these guys have infiltrated the IA and form a large group within it, (sorry the arbic spelling is beyond me) this is Sadr's group (ie remeber Sadr City fight in baghdad) this group is very active and orginised with estimates reaching 200000 members there standard MO is to emplace IED, and hit in run attacks with small arms and RPG. another group is Badr brigade these would be %26quot;elite%26quot; troops of the sunni insurgency, there members have infiltrated the IP to a large margin, these two groups share an uneasy alliance. there are numerous Shia groups who are retalitaing against the JAM and Badr Brigade (due to those two groups going out with %26quot;death squads%26quot; and murdering Shia citzens).



Now the Sunnis and Shias are fighting a civil war with us in the middle. both sides are reciving support from outside goverments. Then you have the Jihadis who inflitrate the country, these members are there to mostly kill foreigners.



a third group id like to add is the little known Pesh Magrin these are Kurd fighters these men i have worked with they are highly motivated and they work with the americans. they dont like %26quot;iraqis%26quot; sunni shia doesnt matter to them they dont like them



most of the time to identify %26quot;insurgents%26quot; something bad has to happen IE take small arms fire, have an IED go off, or find weapons cache's.



as to the iraqis living in democracy... throughout there entire history (spanning to the Mesopotamian empire) they have had monarchies and totalitarin regimes. people seem to think its easy to %26quot;install%26quot; a democracy... it isnt. they have no history of it, freedom of speech, religon, thought. coupled with that fact that there illteracy rate is rampant, and they hold a grudged forever. to %26quot;install%26quot; the democracy is going to take time (lots of it) 10-20 years were going to need to educate the younger generation and teach them it will work until that can be accomplished... well i dont know but its going to be bloody on all sides. will it ever happen i dont know id like to think some day it will though